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Old 01-30-2015, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MJD
Why did you have to show me that?! Oh dear, here we go again..
LOL!

I have a venturied version of that one.
Old 01-30-2015, 09:36 AM
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I can see it in 20 years - estate sale, dozens of neglected engines..
Old 01-30-2015, 05:47 PM
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I was going to make an offer until I saw you wanted it. I sold mine a few years ago, when Henry Nelson was still in business here in PA a few miles from me. Hope you get it.
Old 01-30-2015, 08:20 PM
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Me too..

This weekend I cut spars to length and run off some plans, that's pretty much it for short kits.

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Ribs, 2" nose rings, OS46 and OS32 pattern mounts, doubler plates and blind nut doubler plates.
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Old 01-31-2015, 09:04 AM
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Nice work.
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Mike do you host a site for your products?
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Originally Posted by Pond Skipper
Mike do you host a site for your products?
Not at present. I did when I was in production before.
Old 01-31-2015, 09:08 PM
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Am I on the list for a short-kit, Mike?
Old 01-31-2015, 10:59 PM
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Sure are. I would like to use email with everyone on the list going forward. I'll PM everyone tomorrow. Then set up the cutter and make some spars. Need breathing room after these short kits to get back on track, but it helped push the cutting work ahead and I got a lot of bugs worked out and learned a few things. Like how sweet it cuts .093 toughened acrylic sheet.
Old 01-31-2015, 11:45 PM
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Great news, Mike, thanks. You may want to stay with email as many RCU members are reporting that the PM system is hit or miss at the moment, when it works at all. A few hours ago I talked a friend of mine into parting with a lightly-used Nelson short-stroke Quickie engine. Lots of high-speed possibilities...
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I found a Nelson drawing on the internet a while back - I need to check the bolt pattern. Well, I could check mine when it arrives.. (Sorry petec.. the temptation was too strong.. I couldn't resist..)
Old 02-01-2015, 08:10 AM
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No problem, you will certainly get more use and enjoyment out of it than I. Besides you need it for "product testing".
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The price of these engines is pretty reasonable considering their output and where they are made.

http://aeroracingengines.com/
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Yep for sure. If I was plunking that money down, I might head for a Jett FAI practice engine or if possible some other FAI .40, since CP is the only person to have a stake on a 200 sticker on a Demon and he used a Nelson FAI .40. In truth, I hope this is engine is precisely what it says it is, (a) because it I still have to payback RVman after gagging on his Picco .45 on 30% with the stinger outlet up my left nostril during launch. I'd like to have one high nitro racing engine my stable of stupid noisy useless stuff. I don't seem to go through enough glow plugs lately I guess.
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A current long-stroke Q40 motor is in the 25000rpm class. The FAI motors turn 30K. WOW. The Quickie and Q40 motors aren't as bad on plugs as you might think. Not bad at all, in fact. Your FIRE motor on high-nitro fuel could be another matter altogether.
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It occurred to me that since I have a GPS telemetry module, once I get the SD sorted, I won't have to mess with doppler or radar. Runs in opposite directions should be all I need. That's assuming it lives long enough to get to that stage.
Old 02-01-2015, 11:19 AM
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Hey be positive! They're a piece of cake unless you try flying fast with 1/4" elevon throw. My advice to anyone hesitant on the first flight, just gear it down - go up one inch diameter and drop a couple of inches in pitch, i.e. don't start with a 9-8, use a 10-6 (engine dependent comment of course). The hand launch will be effortless (for some people, the first time they fly a 3lb airplane with >2:1 thrust to weight can be a surprise) and the top speed will be - typically - capped in the 110-120 range. Which gets the job done on the test flights.
Old 02-01-2015, 11:43 AM
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I'm not trying to be negative. Actually, I've had pretty good luck with hand-launched airplanes. Being left-handed, I can keep my thumb on the stick and still give it a good throw that doesn't qualify me for the Special Olympics. Easiest hand-launch I've ever had was my Outlaw with a piped .35AX. Point it up and let go. Never should have sold that fun little bird. My main concern is that our field gets really small at about 150-160 mph. If I have a chance encounter with a cottonwood, I'll be lucky if I even find anything. We have several go MIA every season. I'll ease into it as you suggest. I should be OK, but I know better than to be TOO cocky.
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I'm still too chicken to launch mine on my own, although there is usually someone at my club when I'm there to launch for me. They always comment on the face full of nitro after the launch. Lol

BTW, I'm using a trimmed 9x9 apc on my Jett 60lx(gold muffler) 17000 ground peak rpm, it works awesome every flight.

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I'm glad to see that the Nelson brand has someone to keep them running.
It's amazing how many different categories of high performance F/F, C/L and RC that Nelson dominated for so long.
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Me too, Pigg. I'm even more glad that they developed the long-stroke version since it created a rather large number of unwanted short-stroke engines at very attractive prices. No parts for them, though.
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Performance Specialties was the last resort for Nelson FIRE parts and that situation was complicated by 2 different OD liners depending on year.
It makes the early cases "more obsolete" than the later ones.
At least good privately owned specimens will keep popping up at auctions and the price of the newly manufactured engines will help keep the auction prices grounded.
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I figure I'll run this one the way it was meant to, albeit on reduced nitromethane content (30-40%?). If it breaks and I can't get parts, well that sucks but so be it.. but I doubt I'll beat it to death. If I get a .40 powered Demon to 200 I'll be real happy*. I almost went for an MB Profi a couple of years back but hesitated from (A) upfront cost and (b) did I want to becomwe a full time FAI engine mechanic.

* speaking of which, a Form 1 .40 ought to be able to do that, I hope..? Whadda y'all think?
Old 02-02-2015, 05:18 PM
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According to my buddy who pylon-races these engines, the current Nelson long stroke Q40 engines turn 25K or a bit more on the ground. A current FAI pylon engine turns upwards of 30K. He says the sound is absolutely glorious.
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Here it is in stereo..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmQpcjMiExM


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